What Now Compet?

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RickEngland
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby RickEngland » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:34 am

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Imagine this, certain pets that can mine for specialised materials. Even if MA didn't develop mining for pets in Compet, they could certainly have pets from Compet that that are needed in EU for such activities.

What if EU pets need to visit Compet to unlock certain buffs after completing some sort of compet missions.

Compet crafts pet food for sale to EU pets or even looted items in compet needed in EU. There's 1000's of easy wins, to get pets in both games working and collaborating. So why not do it, or is it simply MA got paid before delivery.

Compet can provide an avenue into EU for every smartphone on the planet if they use the mind in mindark to make these things happen.

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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby Slapper » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:51 pm

If you look at taming version 2 out line from MA. It was great people finally had a use for the nutrio eaters. They could take it to the stables (sold for lots of peds to the players for this purpose), for buffs and training. You have battle arenas and these are in the game but unused.
How many years should it take to make a simple program allowing players in eu to place pets in a terminal for sale and another terminal in compet to buy it and vice versa. It can be placed at the stables in eu and they could have sold a stable in compet.

As for compet even the kiss of life and a relaunch will not save it. Why should a dead game be left running draining money. When was the last compet staff member even in the forums? When was the last update? When was the last donation to run it? If the admins and devs don't care about the game, it does not bode well for its life.

As for the compet deeds I have they might bring novelty value peds in the future, but I have wrote them off as a source of peds. I will not even sell or trade them to another player they are now that worthless I am using them as a decoration in my eu apartment.
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby RickEngland » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:26 pm

Slapper wrote:If you look at taming version 2 out line from MA. It was great people finally had a use for the nutrio eaters. They could take it to the stables (sold for lots of peds to the players for this purpose), for buffs and training. You have battle arenas and these are in the game but unused.
How many years should it take to make a simple program allowing players in eu to place pets in a terminal for sale and another terminal in compet to buy it and vice versa. It can be placed at the stables in eu and they could have sold a stable in compet.

As for compet even the kiss of life and a relaunch will not save it. Why should a dead game be left running draining money. When was the last compet staff member even in the forums? When was the last update? When was the last donation to run it? If the admins and devs don't care about the game, it does not bode well for its life.

As for the compet deeds I have they might bring novelty value peds in the future, but I have wrote them off as a source of peds. I will not even sell or trade them to another player they are now that worthless I am using them as a decoration in my eu apartment.


I have no idea what the complications are to link a unity game with a cryengine game. Although It isn't hard to give compet some life, simple things like a ped paid forest that pay rewards and offer chance to loot something (i.e. the dream) even if that means pulling it away from any rules dictated by google play etc. Part of the reason the ped battles didn't work is we were fignting for the chance to win a single ped pool, not a reward as such per fight like EU works, but players didn't like it. Besides why would players want to use ped when there's an option to use gold.

The current failure isn't with the players, it lays solely with the developers refusal to add the content Compet needs so that players see purpose to want to play it. Things can change though, if we can believe in the promises MA have proposed. MA have a duty and obligation to generate revenue, since they sold revenue deeds. We didn't buy shares in this game we bought the promise of revenue.

Assuming MA sold all the deeds we're talking 2 million USD of investment, that's a lot of money trusting Mindark promises sold to their own player base. That kind of money is not simply a novelty to be forgotten.

All that said, there's other forms of resolution. If Mindark dont want to deliver the content Compet game needs, then they can return the investment to players, or offer an alternative deed such another issue of CLD, or trade them for teleporter deeds....just somethng to fix the issue, even send EU pet revenue to compet deeds.

Are Mindark working on Compet? We don't know they don't say anything. Although one thing is for sure, if they don't fix it and bury their heads in the sand, it will continue to have massive effects on the economy of EU, and trust in Mindark's main product, since these deeds were sold to EU players as an EU item, and still trade as an Entropia Universe item.

What is more frustrating is Compet can be made into a wonderful game, if MA want it be a great game. So the big question is do Mindark have the appetite to deliver for their own sake as well as ours? Time will tell I guess.

But let's not make it easy for Mindark; they have taken our money, they owe us. We're not writing off anything.

Rick
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby McCormick2 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:49 pm

Rick, you invested money into a kickstarter. And you knew it could...ahe...would happen. :D

And btw., this isnt the 1st time they lied to us. Yet you kept investing into this bullshit.
Come back to reality...please.

Continue to post your ideas and thoughts, how this already dead game could be still alive...will change absolutely nothing. It will mess with your mood one day though.

You got scammed by a kickstarter. It happens every day. Get over it.

It will only drag you down, focusing on this scam...this scam will never answer any of your questions and never appreciate any of your ideas anymore...

Yes, it could be all rainbows and unicorns...but its not. And you know it ! :?

p.s.
Should MA post something like "We are working on a compet update"...please think twice before investing even more into it... :lol:
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby RickEngland » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:30 pm

McCormick2 wrote:p.s.
Should MA post something like "We are working on a compet update"...please think twice before investing even more into it... :lol:


Yeah thanks, no more deeds for me.
Wasted 4 years already trying to support this, everyone has their limits.

It's still a giant black cloud though McCormick, and that is not going away until MA resolves the situation.

I'm out of here.

Rick
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby McCormick2 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:05 pm

RickEngland wrote:
McCormick2 wrote:p.s.
Should MA post something like "We are working on a compet update"...please think twice before investing even more into it... :lol:


Yeah thanks, no more deeds for me.
Wasted 4 years already trying to support this, everyone has their limits.

It's still a giant black cloud though McCormick, and that is not going away until MA resolves the situation.

I'm out of here.

Rick



MA will do aboslutely nothing. They owe you nothing.

You have to take things into your own hands, like, file a complaint at swedish authorities or make others aware.
Thats what MIGHT finally change things...
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby RickEngland » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:06 pm

McCormick2 wrote:
RickEngland wrote:
McCormick2 wrote:p.s.
Should MA post something like "We are working on a compet update"...please think twice before investing even more into it... :lol:


Yeah thanks, no more deeds for me.
Wasted 4 years already trying to support this, everyone has their limits.

It's still a giant black cloud though McCormick, and that is not going away until MA resolves the situation.

I'm out of here.

Rick



MA will do aboslutely nothing. They owe you nothing.

You have to take things into your own hands, like, file a complaint at swedish authorities or make others aware.
Thats what MIGHT finally change things...


I'm quite sure contractually MA do have an obligation to deedholders to deliver, plus they've made many commitments and promises to do so. Such as links with EU and PR marketing at some point, including finishing some of the systems clearly not completed.

Arguing if MA are in breach of contract with Swedish authorities is pretty pointless, MA would simply state they haven't abandoned the game and it's a timing issue (in other words bad management, i.e. they haven't delivered, is not the same as they won't deliver), how would you prove otherwise?. Sure we could argue MA could communicate better, however I very much doubt that even if deedholders went to court, no judge would force Mindark to a delivery programe. So the issue would come down to compensation or reimbursement of investments based on proving a breach, although then we're talking litigation and that would be very costly.

So it comes down to company reputation and player (customer) appetite to fund Mindark moving forward. As much as MA can be pretty ruthless, I do not think they're stupid. They will be under pressure to resolve the situation in one way or another. It's very short sighted if MA do nothing, I for one was looking forwarded to playing EU into retirement, that is a ton more deposits than the value of deeds.

Hey ho, lets see what happens, once MA fix all the issues with the new Ark moon.

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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby KMax » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:59 pm

Lol moon released and in such a state not even worth going there. Yet another huge fail.

- Have to fly to moon no tp access.
- You can only leave through pvp lootable, watch so you don't take lootables off the moon
- can use AH but watch the fees add up into MA pockets to try to get mats off the moon via AH
- you can risk summons but you have to trust you get logged out before the mothership goes down

I for one am glad I will never again purchase deeds prior to release again after this competition bull they pulled. So glad I do not own moon deeds. Unless they change the no way to get mats off all at once except pvp lootable that place will be just another dead rock in the game sad to say.

MA get your heads out of that dark smelly craphole you call space.
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby matthew » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:06 pm

at least the moon released and starting paying out on schedule.

What is the future of compet? I sent a support case (via website 2 weeks ago without a reply), no payout for 3 months in a row...

Any explanation from devs? When is the relaunch planned for?
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Re: What Now Compet?

Postby OZtwo » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:00 pm

RickEngland wrote:I have no idea what the complications are to link a unity game with a cryengine game. Although It isn't hard to give compet some life, simple things like a ped paid forest that pay rewards and offer chance to loot something (i.e. the dream) even if that means pulling it away from any rules dictated by google play etc. Part of the reason the ped battles didn't work is we were fignting for the chance to win a single ped pool, not a reward as such per fight like EU works, but players didn't like it. Besides why would players want to use ped when there's an option to use gold.


The issue was that MA outsourced the project and to be able to link the two games MA then would need to give up to much of the game which right there is what crashed the dreams of linking the two games.

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